Yeah and also he used strafebot! OH MY

I show this demo to 4 more people and thy say one thing: Obvious wallhack, he play very smart to fool CA-kids but experienced players see it clearly. How shame for promode scene :-(

fail :(

Hm... And what buxter thinks about that situation?

In some moments you are turning back and go away when he is comming, but I'm not sure that you are using cheats.

I saw this demo. I dont know he used wh in all matches in this cup but im 100% sure here.

map knowledge is recognised as cheat <3

maybe he used headphones? T_T

soundhack

alien and kundel, try to watch this demo 8 times with 0.0000000001 timescale, maybe you'll find more cheats, and thats really interesting yea

stop hiding comments with replies not confirming your accusations. kkthxbb

I watched this again, and at about 7:00 - 6:55 he starts going slowly back when buxter is comming to a jump pad (near ra), but buxter DIDN'T make a NOISE (!), next situation(2:50 - 2:45), buxter is going to ra room and eThaD stoped follow him and he shot a rocket at second exit of this room (but how he knows that buxter won't stay at ra?)

sith. 1st situation - it became dangerous to stay near the edge of platform, so i backed. Buxter could do 2 things. Rush the jumppad or just wait and double-jump @ window. 2nd situation - i heared that he is on the same platform and just walking towards shaft, because i havent' heared him falling to ra.

Hmm ok, so now explain rest of your 29 situation plz or maybe try to explain those with exclamation mark:
7:07 !
6:54 (wh)
6:20 (wh)
6:09 (wh)
6:04 ! (LG 40%)
(you dont need to explain this one... maybe you just had a luck) 5:47 - 5:45 (wh)
5:42 (wh and thats why he hit the wall)
4:57 !
3:42 !
3:01 !
1:38 (+aim)
I wonder what you are going to do know? Do nothing or write 'QuakeSuperHero you are noob and you are stupid!!! Im skilled player and im not using any cheats'. Ofkoz as you said on irc (#cpmduel):
[eThaD] what do you want from me?
[QuakeSuperHero] i want you to play vs buxter or fedor on PB server
[QuakeSuperHero] thats all
[eThaD] and i dont want
[QuakeSuperHero] why?
[eThaD] because i'm not in mood
[QuakeSuperHero] it can be on weekend if u want
[QuakeSuperHero] so?
(...)
[eThaD] no
[eThaD] i wont play
[QuakeSuperHero] :(
[QuakeSuperHero] not in mood in weekend? :)
[eThaD] i just dont want to play
[eThaD] because of all these false accusations
[eThaD] as i said
[eThaD] we'll talk about rematch or the demo
[eThaD] when you share you nick
[eThaD] now sorry
[QuakeSuperHero] thats why u can prove u dont use wallhack
[eThaD] have a ca cup game
[QuakeSuperHero] ok
[QuakeSuperHero] i will pase our conversation to buxter and maybe he will speak with u

eThaD now you know why i spoke to you on irc.

death's 40% lg on jumpad makes lugia look sad

Not gonna tell you, that you are noob. I'll stop conversation from now until you will give me your real nick. Btw swedish flag? Weird, thought you are pole... Then maybe you are really that guy, who was accusing me in cheating @ nightcup and was promising to break my bones? :D

3 moments at this demo makes me very confident that eThaD uses WH all the game. 6.55, 4.23, 3.43. Each one has similar scenario: he fires rocket miliseconds !!! before he is able to see me, moreover shot is perfectly accurate(i took almmost all damage !!!). Take notice that he makes exactly one shot around this times and hits the target. So certailny those weren't accidentaly fired rockets nad these situations were not matter of the luck. Of course you can always say that he follows the noise but in this cases it ain't work either because noise confirms only me presence at certain point in the map, but don't implies that i'm moving to a certain spot in the map !!! And you can see that in all situations he hits me while i was in motion. Together with the fact that he hit the target it implies that he knew exactly when and where i will be in the moment. To undermine "noise" explanation i would add also that periods between last audible move i made and moment when he fires a rockets are respectively: 1, 2, 2 secs. It means that in two last cases during about 2 secs he has absolute no knowledge what am I going to do and this leads us to another point common in mentioned earlier situations. In each one i had multiple choices at least 3: mowing forward to him, go back or stand still, and he always predicts not only my choice but how i will perform it !!! What else makes me very suspicious is that i won quite comfortably against rioty on 1a, rioty won even more comfortably against eThad on 1a (21:6), so logical consequence would be that i should have won my game against eThad, but in the whole tournament it was the toughest game for me, i lost 17:10 but I was very lucky that I managed to make 10 frags (I made telefrag in crucial moment so I gained some frags, and in the last minute when result wast clear i made rest of them). Score is one thing, but i felt completely dominated during the game, i could not suprise eThad any moment i simply had a feeling that he knows exactly what am i going to do at any moment ... And here is one possible explanation. This were grand final matches. He won first map(cpm15) against rioty, so in order to be less suspicious (wanted to win 2:1 instaed of 2:0) he decided to give up second map(1a, he lost 21:6, he could easily win this one also playing with WH) and won convincigly 3rd one (cpm24). I want also add that it is almost impossible to convice that someone uses aimbot (i assume that there is no obvious proof like LG > 60% on ping 80). Aim is only a matter of training and professional vq3 players proofs it. But WH is whole differenet thing, it is much easier to expose wall-hacker mainly basing on 2 things: demo record showing situations like i mentioned before, and personall feeling that you are unable to suprise your opponent that he has permanent control over you actions. So my point is that i tend to belivie much easier that cheater uses aimbot when firstly one expose that he uses WH, and here is the same situation, i wouldn't pay any notice to eThad aim if i wouldn't earlier be suspicious about WH. So I am also doubtful about his aim.

Come to irc, buxter. I will gladly talk to you.

ZOMG Death moved his crosshair on buxter and he killed him?!?! OBVIOUS CHEAT! xD

eThaD@ why you want to talk with him on irc?

Because it's retarded to post smth here and wait for 134935 hours for reply

But we want to see your discussion with buxter.

The wh whiners are pathetic. There is nothing to see here. Absolutely nothing. No offense to either player, but the level of play in this winners bracket final was actually quite low.

paragraphs makes reading easy, just wanted to let you know buster :p

I think that you don't get the point eThad. First of all I am not going to discuss anything with anyone, i was asked to present my opinion so I done it. I'm not the only one who sees your game on this demo very suspicious I am not even person who put this here. So if you need to explain sth, explain it public. But not to me personally because i don't really care about your opinion, demo is self-evident for me (and to many other people what I already heard).

1. You can't prove that it wasn't you who posted the demo. 2. Only poles see cheats in this demo.

omg 40% lg when he comes up a jp impossible CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT BAN BAN BAN!!!!

buxter look at 2:48 and tell me if that's a wallhack or simply spam. There are tons of other examples as well but I guess you've made your mind for good.

All this shows is how ez buxtler is.

lol

lol there is no cheat here, easy lg pad traking and just normal play, you can do this whit any demo. and please mark me as spam because i don't agree whit you. k thx

looks like a wh, at some point he realizes what obvious shots he did before and tries to obscure the fact that he used wh with forced inconviniences like looking in the wrong direction for a second.

reload > dag

and he's a jolly good fellowwwwwwww that nobody can deny!

that was just normal gameplay wtf? no cheating at all, someone got just raged of losing heh.

Post #32 is bestest so far. Awaiting someone to top this particular post.

Post 32: "at some point he... looking in the wrong direction for a second." Yah, no shit?

vods or it didn't happen

buxter dont cry

Funny how all ppl blame buxter of making the drama instead of "QuakeSuperHero". And that stupid thing of death: Only polish ppl see cheats. Dude. Srsly fuck with that retard shit. the most amazing thing is that fedor lost to hoyden 2 times

now when i think of it. Adding "only polish ppl see cheats" and "swedish flag" near my nick it's gonna be me to blame. just great :>

#23 hoens on 2010-02-10 18:18:18 Unregistered Spam "The wh whiners are pathetic. There is nothing to see here. Absolutely nothing. No offense to either player, but the level of play in this winners bracket final was actually quite low." agreed, two semigood players making a big fuss about things. jesus

very sad thing would be if ethad really used WH, because it would mean (basing on community reaction) that people using WH in smart way can be safe.

how can you not see the obvious wh? the first minutes of the demo are so clearly wh that i really begin to wonder how many people who post that this would be legit are using wh themselfes

i have seen the demo 2 times. There is no cheat. That what happens when buxter thinks he is best at +back and suddenly he discoveres someone bettah and got his sorry ass spanked. Get over it.

He is just listening, not using a wallhack.

no wh used here. but still, serious tournaments are played in LAN and will always be...

Want to organise one, mr. anonymous?

each internet tournament should have rule: if you opponent insist to play on PB server you can either agree and play, or disagree what equals your disqualifaction. i know that are perhaps ways to decive PB, but such rule certailny would make online tournaments more clean.

If you see many of the top duelists playing you know for sure they have a wallhack... even when they are playing on LAN based events on tournament pcs. Duel is all about prediction. Simple as that. TOXIC in his top days looked like a living aimbot. Online and on LAN. Did he use an aimbot? No ofcourse not. Get a grip. eTHAD is a very experienced and very capable duelist. Some actions are questionable at most, but I dont think he cheats.

buxter is much more experienced than eThad. Btw. did u saw HAL, fedor, bsr, Lugia, Vo0 etc... hidi

buxter is much more experienced than eThad. Btw. Have you ever seen HAL, fedor, bsr, Lugia, Vo0 playing hiding style all the game?

tbh it was a fun tourney but a lowskilled final... i really think buxter can beat ze ruski but whatever .... you didnt imo no hax no cheats YOU POLE MY FRIEND YOU JUST FAILED so......w/e lowskilled final!! HAL even though i dont like to admit that you are the best 1v1 player atm pls sign up for tr nrxt cup and we wont have that kind of cpmretardcommunitydrame.... k. thx

nothing really obvious here ; / sorry PL-terr

wallhack? lol in qw it's called div0 skillzz ;)

Q_Q

#55: What you mean by "div0" ??

div3=n00b div2=decent div1=g00d/very good div0=Milton ;)